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   Republican Vet on April 28, 2006 at 9:27 pm

   So, I can stage a kidnapping hoax in Iraq and be praised for it? None of this makes sense and in case you forgot, here’s my take.
   === The Hoax ===
   Jill Carroll’s faulty story has been proven to be the largest kidnapping hoax in the war in Iraq
   Let’s break a few things down and we’ll see what we can come up with.
   http://images.capitalnews9.com/media/2006/1/30/images/01___jillcarroll2.jpg Her first picture: She’s still dressed as an American but does that look like the face of a woman abducted at gunpoint by terrorists? Her face looks a little routine, if you ask me. She looks like she’s getting the first stage of the hoax out of the way and she’s just making a brief appearance. If this were truely a kidnapped woman, taken at gunpoint by terrorists, my guess is she’d be crying hysterically and begging for her life. But ask yourself a few questions.

   1. Having seen what happens to “freelance” folks in Iraq, even to some contractors, why would you venture into the middle of a war zone without a destination and without a set purpose? And if I get the libertard answer that “one person can make a difference” I’m gonna puke. Any idiot knows if they go into a war zone without a calling, their chances of getting killed are huge. So, if this is real, did she ask for this? Yes, just like Nick Berg did.
   2. She claimed to have been kidnapped at gunpoint and that her translator was killed. Having seen yesterday’s news, we learn that, in fact, her translator was not killed. The rumor that the translator was killed sure was a good way to make this hoax look seriously real. But where’s the translator? He hightailed it outta there because this is Jill Carroll’s stage. This is her spotlight. We can’t have a woman and a translator dying for Arab women. We can only have an American woman die.
   3. Once again, in a world, in a religion where women are hated and treated like dogs, why would “terrorists” be demanding the release of women? What’s more is if they hate women so badly, why are “terrorists” sparing Carroll’s life?
   4. Why is the release of female prisoners such a priority if we just released 5 of them and the US is only holding 6 more? This “kidnapping” is about 6 detained females? 6 females hated by their society and religion? Can it get any more ridiculous than that?
   5. If her “terrorist captives” hate women so badly and we haven’t met their demands, why hasn’t she been killed? I thought terrorists were hardcore killers? But they’re holding out for 6 women?
   6. Who are these “sources close to the kidnappers” who are giving all this information?
   7. If the captors are serious about this ordeal and she’s in such danger, why would these unknown sources reveal that she’s in a “safe house” owned by one of the kidnappers in downtown Baghdad? Can’t we trace stuff like that? Don’t we have the capability of locating a house where hostages are being held? Of course we do, so why would they reveal that much info? Because she’s not there, they’re not terrorists and this whole thing is a hoax.
   8. What exactly is a “safe house” where terrorists hold Americans hostage and threaten to slaughter them? I didn’t hear Nick Berg’s captors tell anyone he was being held in a “safe house.”
   9. Jill Carroll tells America to “give the terrorists whatever they want.” Right? But the report we get says the kidnappers have “more specific demands than releasing all women from jail,” ‘but refused to disclose these demands.'” Riiiiiiiiiiiight.
   10. If you put a deadline on someone’s life that if you didn’t get all your demands met by that time you’d kill them, why wouldn’t you release the details of all your demands? Possibly because they need to think of some more? Possibly related to females in that area? Mark my words, they’ll have no other demands unless they’re related to women.
   11. Her kidnappers say they have to kill her “according to Islamic law.” What exactly is this Islamic law and why would women freelance into this land if Islamic law requires them to be killed?
   12. Her kidnappers claim Carroll is in “good psychological condition.” Are you kidding me? Terrorists now give a damn about a captive’s state of mind? Even after they’ve put out a deadline until their murder? And who did this psych eval? Do they have doctors in the “safe house,” tending to captives who are going to be killed?
   13. NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE!
   14. The report also says Carroll is “doing housework with the other women in the place where she’s being held.” Again, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!?! She’s doing housework because she’s not a captive. Why would a terrorist disclose that information anyway? This sounds like Queer Eye For The Terrorist Guy. They’ve given her a makeover, she’s wearing Arab clothing now, she’s doing housework………where does it end? Will this ever begin to look like a real kidnapping?
   15. And finally, I know my family’s response even when I was in the military and spent 277 days in a combat zone, but let’s take a civilian’s family into the spotlight this time. What would your family say to you if you came home from work one day and told them you were going to Iraq to “make a difference?” They’d beg you not to go because it’s not safe, it’s a combat zone, it’s a terrorist’s haven and you WILL GET YOURSELF KILLED!
   16. Ignoring those facts, are you just asking to die if you’re untrained for a combat zone but go anyway? Yes. You are asking to be killed.

   And mark my words, ladies and gentlemen. If Jill Carroll ends up dead, it will be because of one thing and one thing only………….

   It’ll be a choreographed killing, planned out to look real but ultimately make Jill Carroll look like a martyr for the Arab Woman. I can see it now.

   “Poor Jill Carroll. She was killed because 6 Arab women weren’t released from US custody. Damn that President Bush. He doesn’t give in to terrorist’s demands and doesn’t release terror suspects. He killed Jill Carroll. Poor Jill Carroll. “

   Sounds nice, huh?

   She’ll die by her own hands. Sure, someone else may do the actual killing and they may even get it on video tape, but this whole ordeal is a hoax and if she dies it’ll be because she has requested it to “send a message.” My guess? The U.S. won’t give in to some lame terrorist group staging a kidnapping and Jill Carroll will miraculously escape or be rescued because they’ll finally realize they’re fighting a losing battle. She’ll either have to gather the guts of a martyr and actually die for the Arab woman’s cause or they’ll dream up some stupid rescue or escape story.

   Analysis Written By: Republican Vet @ http://republicanvet.blogspot.com on 11Feb2006 before Jill Carroll’s “miraculous” release, after weeks of silence and multiple “failed” “execution deadlines.”

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   dm on April 8, 2006 at 6:58 pm

   David, you’re right…it’s not worth it.

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   David on April 8, 2006 at 2:36 pm

   Dear Pax, I got an email from this same blogger. He sent the passage you quoted above to me to show how he had made assumptions and comments about Jill’s political and religious convictions in an attempt at sarcastic humor. So these statements were intended as just that: humor. Humor in very poor taste, perhaps, but humor. Not to be taken seriously.
   DM, I think you and I are mostly in agreement here about the assumptions being made about Jill, but perhaps it’s just best to ignore these people. I think by responding we just add fuel to the fire.

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   David on April 8, 2006 at 1:52 pm

   Pax Americanna, why post this? Do you agree with this particular blogger? Does he/she have any more support for his/her statements than Aida Bainfield did earlier in this blog?
   I think Jill’s attempts at objectivity may actually be having a negative effect. It is easy to project almost any opinions onto someone who does not project their own opinions into what they write or say.
   Jill was sympathetic to common people affected by the war. True. She said so herself, but many people share this sympathy, myself included. She also spoke of being Christian and thanked her mother for raising her Catholic. Aside from this, she has said ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about her motivations or beliefs. Anything else is pure speculation.

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   dm on April 8, 2006 at 10:06 am

   I will reference my previous post–has this person ever MET Jill or spoken with her? Did she actually pull him aside and share all this with this blogger? “She was hoping to peddle her scribblings when she got back, or so she claims.” I know that I never heard Jill say this. Did she write to this blogger and “claim” this to him/her?
   Again, I’m so happy that people REALLY know what they’re talking about before all this BS pours out of their mouths and pens.

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