Kinzi alerted me to this story published in World Magazine tackling the issue of harassment Jordanians face when they convert from Islam to Christianity. Here is an excerpt:
Ask Samer and Abeer. Last September Jordanian security police connected to the country’s Mukhabarat, or intelligence agency, showed up at the couple’s home unannounced. They arrested Samer and detained him overnight. Samer’s crime: coming to faith in Jesus Christ 14 years ago. Originally a Muslim, Samer over the years since his conversion has been questioned several times by security police but never detained.
This time, the police turned him over to the Islamic courts. The judges convicted Samer of apostasy. In a Nov. 23 decision the court decreed that his identification papers must be changed from "Muslim" to "no religion;" that he had forfeited any inheritance; that his marriage to Abeer is now illegal and therefore he is not entitled to custody of his son.
In my humble, unbiased opinion I would say that if Jordan intends to tread on a truly democratic path, then its citizens should be given the basic right of practicing the religion of their choice.
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As a Jurist criminalist specailist in anti terrorisms ideology and in strategical stues I say:
1- The shari3a law is invinted by muslims imams and its complitly contradicting the true explanation of the Holy Qur2an .
2- The Qu2an has been modificated by muslims imams via thier ” Tafsiir ” explanation to it, to enforce people to an ideology whihc they didnt find it in the Qur2an.
3- The true islam allaow any person to believe in what he or she wants .
4- The christians countries should force the islamic countries to let peoople to believe in what they want and to eliminate the imams law . And thats by many methods such as to stop all kinds of collaboration …etc… with them just for 10 dayes and forbiden muslim to preach in christians countries.
5- Muslims should learn to make comparative examination between the imams teaching and the Qur2an to see that the imams teaching is nothing more an evil one .
6- 80% of muslims are not muslims because they reject the qur2an by accepting the imams teaching which they wrote in the name of Mohamad.
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Hi…Let Me Clear Something Here..In ,,Jordan..which is at 1st an ISLAMIC ARABIC NATION…so its based on Islamic Sunni Law…we follow islmic rules,,i mean,we have arab traditions that we’ll never forget,or give up,,so we dont need arab americans who adapted in the west to tell us about freedom and all this shit…the only welcomed people in jordan,,are jordanian sunni muslims& jordanian chrsitians,,we are happy together…we dont need anybody to talk about religous freedoms,,becauae bahai’s and druze are not followers of islam,,so their not considered muslims,,,
While in Dubai we did hear something on this, though neither of us are in any way experts. It appears they follow a principle similar to Qatar: If you mean by “want to marry a arab guy from dubai,” that you want to marry an Emirati, I think it’s going to be a challenge. I believe a great deal of the benefits provided to Emiratis, like Qataris, come from marrying another Emirati. It’s a way of ensuring the growth of the native population, keeping the blood pure and so forth.
In Qatar it is possible to marry someone from outside but it’s not easy. I believe it may require permission of the emir. When we were in Dubai we heard something similar. I think if you are wanting to marry an Emirati it is not part of the normal law but will require special permission. It’s uncommon but I believe possible.
Or do you mean an Arab guy that lives in Dubai? You’ll have to give more details.
i am a girl from iran .
i want to marry with a arab guy from dubai .
is it possile by dubai law to marriage ?
if no how it will possible for us
please help me .
Nas, are you saying that any Muslim who wants to become a Christian is irrational, irresponsible and insane? The ones I have known are quite the opposite, and have become much better citizens as a result of their change, in spite of the hardships the have faced.I’m still waiting for you to tell me where the holes are in the story.
Wouldn’t the Islamic Umma be a healthier unit if those who were only there because their papers said they had to weren’t?
Very interesting catching up and trying to read all these posts. I am very active Christian, being very involved with my church, and trying to honor God.
The new testament of course focuses on faith, faith through Jesus Christ. Jesus spoke of faith in the Lord while essentially removing the need for a “law.” In the bible, we read how God was so saddened by the reckless nature and disobedience of man, He realized that no on earth was good enough. So he sent his Son, that whoever believe in Him would have eternal life. This allowed followers of Christ to no longer be bound to the Jewish law, but be bound to the Lord through love and mercy and forgiveness. There is even instances in the New Testament where Paul tells followers that if they still want to still follow the Jewish Law, then hey – go for it, but that’s not really what it’s all about.
America was settled by protestant Christians who wished to be free of the Anglican (England) church. Years later, after we declared our independence from Britain, our founding fathers wanted to make sure that there would never be an official religion in this free society. They of course believed in God, and our founding documents reference God and our need for Him in our daily lives. But they wanted Americans to be free from a state-run religion. Of course nowadays, many people in the US are highly offended by the notion of God, and want God removed from our government. They site this “separation between church and state,” wanting Freedom of Religion, as guaranteed in our Constitution, to instead mean Freedom FROM Religion.
So beyond faith in Christ, and trying to live a good life in Him, protestant Christians are essentially free from written “rules.” Certainly, our organized churches have different ways in how they operate, and we try very hard to follow the principles Jesus lays down in the Bible, but we are also forgiven for our short comings and mistakes. Different churches make up their own rules which they feel will make their followers more obedient to God’s will. But these rules are made by man, and therefore flawed, and easily broken. The Catholic church insisted the Earth was the center of the universe, and Galileo was killed for showing them otherwise. But of course, there is nothing in the bible about Earth being the center. This is just man-made doctrine. And many people see this as changing “rules,” and Christians are a bunch of hypocrits. They ask if the church can change one rule about eating meat on fridays, why not change another rule about pre-marital sex or homosexuality. But again, we go back to man-made rules versus instruction from the Lord. We have religious rules made by men which are not biblical, and therefore can take people away from blessing from the Lord, and actually add persecution to those who do not obey the rules created by the church, though they may be inline with biblical teachings. This is where Martin Luther came in.
Having state-law and religious-law combined is therefore a complicated issue. Breaking a state-law would be an infraction against God. And breaking a religious-law also goes against the state. But, you also have an entire nation devoted to a single mind set, which I suppose is scary, if one wants to step outside that mindset, and also good, as it creates an environment where everyone has something in common.
The world has been and always will be the same. There is always immorality. There is always war. Destruction. Deceit. It has always been this way. And good meaning “Religious People,” have created additional rules on their own in hopes of fixing this. Or they create rules to kill or shun those who are different – thinking that if everyone was JUST LIKE ME, the world would be great. But then theologies clash and wars breakout in the name of God. People kill each other to help make pure the things of God. Then we begin creating the will of God through the rules of Holy Men. And things continue to fall apart.
But, if we all lived by faith and good works. Through love, mercy, kindness and forgiveness – imagine how different things would be. (sorry for the long post)
Sterling, I agree with you regarding Sistani. I wish we had more of him. He seems to be very tolerant and peaceful man.